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	<title>Comments on: Vince Cable &amp; the future of higher education</title>
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		<title>By: The irrelevance of degree titles &#171; TheUniversityBlog</title>
		<link>http://theuniversityblog.co.uk/2010/07/15/vince-cable-higher-education-speech/#comment-2729</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The irrelevance of degree titles &#171; TheUniversityBlog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 09:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] universities cover an ever growing number of bases it&#8217;s not so surprising to find joint degrees that cover Waste Management and Dance.  For [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Rabelais</title>
		<link>http://theuniversityblog.co.uk/2010/07/15/vince-cable-higher-education-speech/#comment-2508</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been mulling Vinny&#039;s speech over in my mind and I suppose that a graduate tax is a step in the right direction. But a tax on individuals, like a loan, encourages the idea that education is about nothing more than gaining competitive advantage over others in the job market. 

I have absolutely no objection to paying more tax, and having more of it spent on educating other people, because of the massive collective benefits that come from living in a well educated society.

But what I would really like to hear, before any policies are brought forward, is a conversation about what we think higher education is for? At the moment, it seems, Vinny&#039;s response to that question might be that HE should be for about 2 years!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been mulling Vinny&#8217;s speech over in my mind and I suppose that a graduate tax is a step in the right direction. But a tax on individuals, like a loan, encourages the idea that education is about nothing more than gaining competitive advantage over others in the job market. </p>
<p>I have absolutely no objection to paying more tax, and having more of it spent on educating other people, because of the massive collective benefits that come from living in a well educated society.</p>
<p>But what I would really like to hear, before any policies are brought forward, is a conversation about what we think higher education is for? At the moment, it seems, Vinny&#8217;s response to that question might be that HE should be for about 2 years!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://theuniversityblog.co.uk/2010/07/15/vince-cable-higher-education-speech/#comment-2465</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Harriet, I must admit I do quite like the Beeb News redesign.  Seems to be slightly more to browse.  As for being in it together, I&#039;m glad to hear it...I hope we ALL #loveHE!

@cornerstone, I keep my fingers crossed that we have enough collaboration going on to make that difference!

@Nick, you&#039;re absolutely right that a great deal is already shared, which is fantastic.  That makes me even more sad when some unis, groups &amp; individuals make comments based on their own interests, ignoring the bigger picture.  I can&#039;t help but think that&#039;s not the right move now, especially in these unusual times.

You&#039;ve got some good ideas there on possible new degree routes.  I imagine more flexible routes are the way forward, so long as they can be found workable.  That&#039;s partially why I would rather separate institutions had the choice.  A broad brush approach bringing in new rules across the board would surely not be helpful to anyone at this juncture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Harriet, I must admit I do quite like the Beeb News redesign.  Seems to be slightly more to browse.  As for being in it together, I&#8217;m glad to hear it&#8230;I hope we ALL #loveHE!</p>
<p>@cornerstone, I keep my fingers crossed that we have enough collaboration going on to make that difference!</p>
<p>@Nick, you&#8217;re absolutely right that a great deal is already shared, which is fantastic.  That makes me even more sad when some unis, groups &amp; individuals make comments based on their own interests, ignoring the bigger picture.  I can&#8217;t help but think that&#8217;s not the right move now, especially in these unusual times.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got some good ideas there on possible new degree routes.  I imagine more flexible routes are the way forward, so long as they can be found workable.  That&#8217;s partially why I would rather separate institutions had the choice.  A broad brush approach bringing in new rules across the board would surely not be helpful to anyone at this juncture.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Skelton</title>
		<link>http://theuniversityblog.co.uk/2010/07/15/vince-cable-higher-education-speech/#comment-2460</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 13:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that it is time for increased collaboration between universities. We already share our ideas and expertise more than most sectors through conferences [not to mention blogs such as this one!]. 

I have been somewhat skeptical of the Shared Services agenda, which strikes me as driven by oversimplistic ideas of economies of scale. However we do have some excellent shared services, such as http://www.outofhourshelp.ac.uk/

I want to see collaborations between universities where the partners play to their strengths and unique missions. The most obvious example of a university with a unique mission is the Open University. 

After some high profile failures, I think traditional universities widely accept that distance learning is not a cash cow to sell their wares to more and more students. That is the core strength of the OU, it has the skills to do it and has the market sewn up. 

How about a traditional three year full-time university degree but with one year delivered at a distance by the OU? Perhaps two years are delivered in a traditional university setting, and one year consists of an industrial placement with simultaneous distance learning modules delivered by the OU. This should cut the cost of delivery while increasing students experience and future employability.

I hope forward thinking VCs are queuing up to talk to Martin Bean...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it is time for increased collaboration between universities. We already share our ideas and expertise more than most sectors through conferences [not to mention blogs such as this one!]. </p>
<p>I have been somewhat skeptical of the Shared Services agenda, which strikes me as driven by oversimplistic ideas of economies of scale. However we do have some excellent shared services, such as <a href="http://www.outofhourshelp.ac.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.outofhourshelp.ac.uk/</a></p>
<p>I want to see collaborations between universities where the partners play to their strengths and unique missions. The most obvious example of a university with a unique mission is the Open University. </p>
<p>After some high profile failures, I think traditional universities widely accept that distance learning is not a cash cow to sell their wares to more and more students. That is the core strength of the OU, it has the skills to do it and has the market sewn up. </p>
<p>How about a traditional three year full-time university degree but with one year delivered at a distance by the OU? Perhaps two years are delivered in a traditional university setting, and one year consists of an industrial placement with simultaneous distance learning modules delivered by the OU. This should cut the cost of delivery while increasing students experience and future employability.</p>
<p>I hope forward thinking VCs are queuing up to talk to Martin Bean&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cornerstone university</title>
		<link>http://theuniversityblog.co.uk/2010/07/15/vince-cable-higher-education-speech/#comment-2446</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cornerstone university]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Change is inevitable and HE must take on the challenge or fold. Truely a change for the sake of change is not a guarantee to success but with universities talking and collaborating then I think HE will survive and continue to grow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change is inevitable and HE must take on the challenge or fold. Truely a change for the sake of change is not a guarantee to success but with universities talking and collaborating then I think HE will survive and continue to grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Harriet</title>
		<link>http://theuniversityblog.co.uk/2010/07/15/vince-cable-higher-education-speech/#comment-2440</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harriet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;A change for the sake of change is no guarantee of a better way.&quot;
Indeed, take for example the redesign of the BBC News website and the many comments along the lines of &#039;if it ain&#039;t broke, don&#039;t fix it&#039;. That said, I think we all know that the HE funding and student finance system is broke (in both senses of the word!), but I share your fear that some decisions may be rushed.
&quot;Are we in this together?&quot;
If we #loveHE we are!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A change for the sake of change is no guarantee of a better way.&#8221;<br />
Indeed, take for example the redesign of the BBC News website and the many comments along the lines of &#8216;if it ain&#8217;t broke, don&#8217;t fix it&#8217;. That said, I think we all know that the HE funding and student finance system is broke (in both senses of the word!), but I share your fear that some decisions may be rushed.<br />
&#8220;Are we in this together?&#8221;<br />
If we #loveHE we are!</p>
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